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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by RDV @ GP3i on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:29 am

jcolas wrote:Good morning forum,

I am a new member and I would like topresent this issue. The ITB we prepared required that the Bid Security should be issued by a commercial bank; and during the pre-bid conference, it was impressed on the bidders that the security should come from a commercial bank. During the openning of which I was absent, the BAC rated pass a bidder which submitted a bid security issued by a rural bank and the bidder was declared the LCB. To me, this should have been a valid ground for the biiders' disqualification. The aggrieve second bidder has submited a protest. May I solicit your opinion on the issue at bar?


Welcome to the forum jcolas, but your query is out-of-topic. You are asking regarding Bid Security under the topic Class A, Financial Documents.

But, at any rate, let me try to answer your question.

If, as you mentioned, during the pre-bid conference, it was impressed by the BAC that the bid security should be issued by a commercial bank, the BAC should have issued a Supplemental/Bid Bulletin for the purpose. If it was not done or if the ITB/BDS did not also indicate that the bid security should be issued by a commercial bank, then the provision of Sec. 27.2(a) which only provides for a "reputable local bank" should apply, which does not necessarily disallows a rural bank.

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by jcolas on Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:49 am

Sir;
It was too late when I realized my querry was misplaced. Yes it was included in the ITB and the BDS so I did not bother to draw a Bid bullettin for this. The other bidder has submitted a protest already. What should be our recourse?

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by RDV @ GP3i on Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:05 am

jcolas wrote:Sir;
It was too late when I realized my querry was misplaced. Yes it was included in the ITB and the BDS so I did not bother to draw a Bid bullettin for this. The other bidder has submitted a protest already. What should be our recourse?
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If it was indicated in the BDS that the bid security (cashier's check, manager's check, bank draft/letter of credit, bank guarantee) should be issued by a commercial bank, and it was explained during the pre-bid conference, then the bidder which complained against the BAC decision not to disqualify a bidder which got its bid security from a rural bank, has a cause of action.

If it has submitted a written protest (which, I assume, is just a motion of reconsideration submitted to the BAC), the BAC should resolve it in 7 c.d. If the BAC decides to reconsider its action, then the bidder which has been considered the LCB will be disqualified. The BAC shall then consider the 2nd LCB for post-qualification.

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by engrjhez® on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:58 pm

jcolas wrote:Good morning forum,

I am a new member and I would like topresent this issue. The ITB we prepared required that the Bid Security should be issued by a commercial bank; and during the pre-bid conference, it was impressed on the bidders that the security should come from a commercial bank. During the openning of which I was absent, the BAC rated pass a bidder which submitted a bid security issued by a rural bank and the bidder was declared the LCB. To me, this should have been a valid ground for the biiders' disqualification. The aggrieve second bidder has submited a protest. May I solicit your opinion on the issue at bar?


Please examine carefully the Bidding Documents especially the ITB. Does it categorically require ALL bid securities be issued by a COMMERCIAL BANK. The minimum requirements set forth by the IRR is as follows:

  • Sec. 27.2 The Bid Security shall be in an amount at least equal to, and not lower than, a percentage of the approved budget for the contract to be bid, as advertised by the concerned procuring entity, in any of the following forms:

    a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check/manager’s check, bank draft/guarantee confirmed by a reputable local bank or in the case of a foreign bidder, bonded by a foreign bank;

    b) Irrevocable letter of credit issued by a reputable commercial bank or in the case of an irrevocable letter of credit issued by a foreign bank, the same shall be confirmed or authenticated by a reputable local bank;

    c) Surety bond callable upon demand issued by a reputable surety or insurance company;

    d) Any combination thereof; or
    x x x

In the case where generic procurement manuals and the standard PBDs are used, the above must be consistent. Unless of course they have "personalized" the bidding requirements. In a general case, only if a bidder had submitted an "irrevocable letter of credit" shall they be required to be issued by a commercial bank. Else, any reputable bank or surety company (in case of "c") will do. Very Happy

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by misty on Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:02 pm

good pm.

may i know if the BAC can limit the form of bid security to only
a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check/manager’s check.

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by engrjhez® on Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:13 pm

misty wrote:good pm.

may i know if the BAC can limit the form of bid security to only
a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check/manager’s check.

thank you.

Yes you may.

However, you cannot do that unless you customize your own procurement manual, specifying that limitation in the definition and applicability of Bid Security, and have it approved by the GPPB.
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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by riddler on Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:29 am

engrjhez wrote:
misty wrote:good pm.

may i know if the BAC can limit the form of bid security to only
a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check/manager’s check.

thank you.

Yes you may.

However, you cannot do that unless you customize your own procurement manual, specifying that limitation in the definition and applicability of Bid Security, and have it approved by the GPPB.
Very Happy


I dont think we need to customize it engrjhez, kasi the PBD has already given the PE 3 choices. It is up to the Procuring Entity to choose.

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by misty on Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:47 am

thank you for your replies.

we prefer to limit the forms of bid security to only those i mentioned because the other forms can be tampered with. besides, we are not familiar which surety companies are reputable or not reputable.

so, if it is within the authority of the BAC to impose the limitation, then we might consider doing it. we just want to avoid any misunderstandings with the bidders later on, should our BAC decide to put such limitation.

again, thank you for all your inputs.

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by engrjhez® on Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:52 pm

ruel wrote:
I dont think we need to customize it engrjhez, kasi the PBD has already given the PE 3 choices. It is up to the Procuring Entity to choose.

Not the PBDs but a Customized Procurement Manual for the procuring entity, just like what NGAs do (DPWH, etc.) and LGUs (Marikina). In the DPWH, the option of using bidders bond from surety companies are removed as an option. But it still has to be GPPB approved to avoid future complications. Smile

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by RDV @ GP3i on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:57 am

ruel wrote:
engrjhez wrote:
misty wrote:good pm.

may i know if the BAC can limit the form of bid security to only
a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check/manager’s check.

thank you.

Yes you may.

However, you cannot do that unless you customize your own procurement manual, specifying that limitation in the definition and applicability of Bid Security, and have it approved by the GPPB.
Very Happy


I dont think we need to customize it engrjhez, kasi the PBD has already given the PE 3 choices. It is up to the Procuring Entity to choose.


Tama yan, engr ruel. You just have to indicate in the BDS the form and amount fo Bid Security that you will allow to be submitted.

At any rate, kung ma-approve na bagong IRR, wala na yata ang surety bond sa acceptable form of bid security at pare-pareho na ang amount for the different forms which is 2% of the ABC.

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Post by engrjhez® on Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:03 pm

RDV wrote:
ruel wrote:
engrjhez wrote:

Yes you may.

However, you cannot do that unless you customize your own procurement manual, specifying that limitation in the definition and applicability of Bid Security, and have it approved by the GPPB.
Very Happy


I dont think we need to customize it engrjhez, kasi the PBD has already given the PE 3 choices. It is up to the Procuring Entity to choose.


Tama yan, engr ruel. You just have to indicate in the BDS the form and amount fo Bid Security that you will allow to be submitted.

At any rate, kung ma-approve na bagong IRR, wala na yata ang surety bond sa acceptable form of bid security at pare-pareho na ang amount for the different forms which is 2% of the ABC.

Kung ganoon pala, what is the rationale of government agencies in formulating and having customized procurement manuals, and have it approved by the GPPB if there are no significant effect di pala? Meron po bang pwedeng i-introduce sa customized manual na di cover ng PBDs or unclear sa IRR(A)? scratch

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Re: Re: Class "A" Financial Documents

Post by riddler on Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:31 am

engrjhez wrote:Kung ganoon pala, what is the rationale of government agencies in formulating and having customized procurement manuals, and have it approved by the GPPB if there are no significant effect di pala? Meron po bang pwedeng i-introduce sa customized manual na di cover ng PBDs or unclear sa IRR(A)?


I also wonder engrjhez, Bakit merong Generic manual? Bakit iba tayo sa manual ng DPWH, DepEd, LGU Marikina, etc., etc.? but i think that for LGU',s THe Local Procurement Manual is already customized for us. On the other hand, the new IRR shall be customized daw by the GPPB in their battlecry for "No A's or B's; Just One IRR", ' and maybe, all the colors shall bleed into one na'. No more different procurement manuals for every departments, but one and only One manual under the new IRR.

eto pala yung BDS format,

Clause 14.1 and 14.2 of the BDS

"Select one of the following, deleting the others:
If the Funding Source is GOP or WB:

The Bid Security shall be in the following forms and amount:
(a) Cash, certified check, cashier’s check, bank draft or irrevocable letter of credit [Insert one percent (1%) of ABC];
(b) Bank Guarantee [Insert one and a half percent (1.5%) of ABC];
(c) Surety Bond [Insert two and a half percent (2.5%) of ABC]; or
(d) Foreign Government Guarantee [Insert one hundred percent (100%) of ABC].


NOTE: The PROCURING ENTITY may choose the acceptable Bid Security from the above-mentioned forms.

x x x x x x."

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