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Post by xub_agent on Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 pm

may the following heads of offices become members of BAC, to wit:

1. City Administrator (as chairman)
2. GSO Head, member
3. City Legal Officer, member

are these positions considered "permanent" in accordance with RA 9184?

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Post by engrjhez® on Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:50 pm

Yes to one representative from each of the three you mentioned. You need two more to fill up the minimum number of BAC members.

Yes also to the last question. Co-terminus employment may be considered permanent.


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Post by xub_agent on Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:57 am

engrjhez® wrote:Yes to one representative from each of the three you mentioned. You need two more to fill up the minimum number of BAC members.

Yes also to the last question. Co-terminus employment may be considered permanent.


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thats relieving! Smile thanks!
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Post by engrjhez® on Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:09 pm

xub_agent wrote:
engrjhez® wrote:Yes to one representative from each of the three you mentioned. You need two more to fill up the minimum number of BAC members.

Yes also to the last question. Co-terminus employment may be considered permanent.


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thats relieving! Smile thanks!

You are welcome, Atty.

However, it must be emphasized that the appointment shall pertain to BAC members only (you have pre-indicated that the City Administrator is the BAC Chair). After the BAC members are appointed by the HOPE, they shall elect among themselves who will be the Chairman and the Vice Chairman. The requirement of "third ranking" applies only to the Chairman. Smile
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Post by INbetween on Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:15 pm

What if the VIce Chairman of the BAC is a temporary employee? Is this ok? LCE appointed a temporary employee to be a BAC member and now he was elected as the Vice Chairman
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Post by riddler on Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:31 pm

INbetween wrote:What if the VIce Chairman of the BAC is a temporary employee? Is this ok? LCE appointed a temporary employee to be a BAC member and now he was elected as the Vice Chairman

Very Happy under Sec. 11.2.3 of the IRR, " x x x x. The members of the BAC shall be personnel occupying "permanent or plantilla" positions of the procuring entity concerned. Very Happy
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Post by engrjhez® on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:05 pm

INbetween wrote:What if the VIce Chairman of the BAC is a temporary employee? Is this ok? LCE appointed a temporary employee to be a BAC member and now he was elected as the Vice Chairman

First, the HOPE may have violated the appointment requirements. Second, the BAC among themselves have also missed the technicality of the appointment by electing the person as Vice Chairman. Smile
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Post by INbetween on Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:33 am

^now that there is a violation, what's the sanction or whatsoever?
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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:05 pm

INbetween wrote:What if the VIce Chairman of the BAC is a temporary employee? Is this ok? LCE appointed a temporary employee to be a BAC member and now he was elected as the Vice Chairman

Even if temporary employee but if the position is a "plantilla" position, it would still fall within the purview of the term "permanent", just as a co-terminus position (like the Municipal/City/Provincial Administrator) is also covered by the same term. The operative word is the term "plantilla" position.
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Re: COMPOSITION OF BAC MEMBERS

Post by hardball2963 on Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:12 pm

Sir what do you mean by "third ranking" is this an official or employee with a salary grade of least 18 or 20? or this only refers to department and division heads..TIA.

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Post by sunriser431 on Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:19 pm

hardball2963 wrote:Sir what do you mean by "third ranking" is this an official or employee with a salary grade of least 18 or 20? or this only refers to department and division heads..TIA.
It refers to the personnel occupying plantilla positions of the procuring entity concerned. In order for you to get the general idea, refer the organizational structure of your agency, starting from the highest plantilla positions and count the rankings. Hope it will be of help. bounce
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Post by hardball2963 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:46 am

thanks sir... Smile

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Re: COMPOSITION OF BAC MEMBERS

Post by engrjhez® on Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:00 pm

hardball2963 wrote:Sir what do you mean by "third ranking" is this an official or employee with a salary grade of least 18 or 20? or this only refers to department and division heads..TIA.

Please refer to this link-->> http://www.gppb.gov.ph/issuances/Resolutions/2004/01-2004.pdf Smile
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Post by sunriser431 on Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:32 pm

hardball2963 wrote:thanks sir... Smile
You are welcome. Hope we'll hear more from you in this forum. bounce
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Re: COMPOSITION OF BAC MEMBERS

Post by aguada on Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:55 pm

hello again!!!
for clarifications...since our water district is composed of 25 employees, is our book keeper be a qualified BAC member?

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Re: COMPOSITION OF BAC MEMBERS

Post by Dong S on Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:49 pm

As the RIRR use the line ...BUT NOT LIMITED TO.... thus that mean that if those FIVE offices mentioned exist in an LGU, members of the BAC should emanate frm that Office before other offices shall be considered for membership?
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Post by engrjhez® on Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:13 pm

rsongahid wrote:As the RIRR use the line ...BUT NOT LIMITED TO.... thus that mean that if those FIVE offices mentioned exist in an LGU, members of the BAC should emanate frm that Office before other offices shall be considered for membership?
The phrase simply means that "the following offices are..." but not exclusively those offices only. Here are the basic considerations in selecting BAC members:
1. Unquestionable Integrity;
2. Procurement Proficiency;
3. Plantilla Personnel;
4. Must come from the Office of the Chief Executive (for LGU); and,
5. End-Users are always represented in the BAC;

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Post by engrjhez® on Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:15 pm

rsongahid wrote:As the RIRR use the line ...BUT NOT LIMITED TO.... thus that mean that if those FIVE offices mentioned exist in an LGU, members of the BAC should emanate frm that Office before other offices shall be considered for membership?
The phrase simply means that "the following offices are..." but not exclusively those offices only. Here are the basic considerations in selecting BAC members:
1. Unquestionable Integrity;
2. Procurement Proficiency;
3. Plantilla Personnel;
4. Must come from the Office of the Chief Executive (for LGU); and,
5. End-Users are always represented in the BAC;

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Re: COMPOSITION OF BAC MEMBERS

Post by khalel on Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:42 pm

SCENARIO:
THE HOPE DESIGNATED FIVE MEMBERS of the BAC with the Following for LGU BAC composition:
1. Third Level Position
2. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
3. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
4. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
5. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position

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NO MORE ELECTIONS? MOOT and ACADEMIC.
I think there is something wrong with the rule

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Post by engrjhez® on Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:23 pm

khalel wrote:SCENARIO:
THE HOPE DESIGNATED FIVE MEMBERS of the BAC with the Following for LGU BAC composition:
1. Third Level Position
2. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
3. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
4. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
5. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position

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NO MORE ELECTIONS? MOOT and ACADEMIC.
I think there is something wrong with the rule

May I clarify your statement: Are you referring to Third Level (CES) Position or Third Ranking (coz they are different)? Membership in the BAC need not be 3rd ranking except for the Chairman. Smile
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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:26 pm

khalel wrote:SCENARIO:
THE HOPE DESIGNATED FIVE MEMBERS of the BAC with the Following for LGU BAC composition:
1. Third Level Position
2. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
3. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
4. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position
5. Plantilla Employee - below the required third level position

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NO MORE ELECTIONS? MOOT and ACADEMIC.
I think there is something wrong with the rule

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with the rule. What is wrong is with how the LCE designated the membership of the BAC just to circumvent the rule that the BAC members shall elect among themselves the Chairman and Vice-Chairman but the Chairman should be at least 3rd ranking.
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Post by engrjhez® on Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:55 pm

khalel,

Please clarify also if the text below the line "NO MORE ELECTIONS..." is part of the concern on BAC membership or simply as a "signature". Smile
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Post by jose on Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:29 pm

RDV is correct, only the plantilla position such as Municipal Administrator which is a co terminus position may be considered as head of BAC, provided therefore that his position as Municipal Administrator is duly approved by the Civil Service Commission , it must be noted that all BAC members should have a permanent plantilla position.

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Post by ironeagle on Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:58 pm

The new municipal building is under construction and hoped to be completed this year. Can the municipal engineer be a BAC member knowing that he will be the one to approve the project after it is completed?
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Post by Jovinal on Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:26 pm

Section 11.2.3. of IRR RA No. 9184 is the answer "The BAC for Local Government Units shall be composed of the following:
a) One representative each from the regular offices under the Office of the
Local Chief Executive such as, but not limited to, the following: Office of
the Administrator, Budget Office, Legal Office, Engineering Office, General
Services Offices; and
b) A representative from the end user unit.
The members shall elect among themselves who shall act as the Chairman and
Vice-Chairman. The Chairman of the BAC shall be at least a third ranking
permanent official of the procuring entity. The members of the BAC shall be
personnel occupying plantilla positions of the procuring entity concerned."
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