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Post by snowbeks on Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:55 am

ask ko lang po san ba talaga nagfafall ang architectural design. kase po may proposed kase na ipapagawang building sa mga district offices namin eh need po namin ang magdedesign eh sabi po sa national office namin GOODS daw un eh sabi po naman ng COA namin dito consultancy daw eh san po kaya talaga?

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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:25 pm

snowbeks wrote:ask ko lang po san ba talaga nagfafall ang architectural design. kase po may proposed kase na ipapagawang building sa mga district offices namin eh need po namin ang magdedesign eh sabi po sa national office namin GOODS daw un eh sabi po naman ng COA namin dito consultancy daw eh san po kaya talaga?

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It would fall under Consulting Services. Please check Annex B of the IRR which contains a list of different kinds of consulting services. Although that list is not exclusive, at the very least, it would provide you with a good guide if you have doubt on whether a particular service that you are procuring will fall under Consulting Services or would just fall under general support services under Goods.
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Post by snowbeks on Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:38 pm

thanks

medyo nalito lang me although i have already read the manual for consulting and its bid documents just want to have other opinions/views about it.

thanks ulit... tamang basa ulit me... ahehehe

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Post by Jay De Why on Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:53 pm

add din po ako sa queires , where can i get the list of percentage if you're gonna evaluate the bid for architectural services thru a. Quality based; 2. Quality-cost based, etc.....

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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:11 pm

j_yodics wrote:add din po ako sa queires , where can i get the list of percentage if you're gonna evaluate the bid for architectural services thru a. Quality based; 2. Quality-cost based, etc.....

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Are you already in the evaluation stage or are you still in the bid docs preparation? If you are already in bid evaluation stage, you have already set the rates (percentages) of the technical evaluation criteria and those are already indicated in the bid docs that you sold to the bidders. If you are still preparing the bid docs, the procuring enity is given the discretion of prescribing the rates for each criteria.
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Post by Jay De Why on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:20 pm

Still in the Bid docs preparation. We are leaning on the Quality-Cost based and not on the quality based only. Sir have you done this procedure already. Which one you think is the better method?
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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:32 pm

j_yodics wrote:Still in the Bid docs preparation. We are leaning on the Quality-Cost based and not on the quality based only. Sir have you done this procedure already. Which one you think is the better method?

If the architectural design that you are looking for is highly technical for whichbyou find difficulty in defining the TOR or that the architectural design that you may be looking for would be incomparable in terms of prices, you may use the quality-based evaluation procedure. If, however, you are only looking for simple architectural designs, itnis better to use the quality-cost based evaluation procedure.
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Post by Jay De Why on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:44 pm

I already got the proposed space requirements and the budgetary construction cost. With it is the minimum percentage for design fee as prescribed by the United Architects of the Philippines. We will us it as the ABC for the consulting services. The reason i pick Quality cost based is because i want the design cost fixed. Quality based has no fixed design fee, it will depend on the cost of the costruction... Am i right on this???
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Post by RDV @ GP3i on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:57 pm

j_yodics wrote:I already got the proposed space requirements and the budgetary construction cost. With it is the minimum percentage for design fee as prescribed by the United Architects of the Philippines. We will us it as the ABC for the consulting services. The reason i pick Quality cost based is because i want the design cost fixed. Quality based has no fixed design fee, it will depend on the cost of the costruction... Am i right on this???

Even if you use quality-based evaluation procedure you are still required to set the ABC, which would still be the maximum amount of the bid price. In other words your ABC or design fee for the architectural design would not be flexible. Of course, in your estimation of ABC, you may compute it as a percentage of your estimated construction cost. The moment you award the contract to the architect, the contract amount is already fixed and cannot be adjusted/increased during the implementation period.
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Post by Jay De Why on Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:22 pm

In quality based evaluation, you can win even if you are the highest bidder right?
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Post by engrjhez® on Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:13 pm

j_yodics wrote:In quality based evaluation, you can win even if you are the highest bidder right?

Yes. Actually. In both QBE and QBCE, the award will be made to the highest rated responsive bid or single rated calculated bid whichever is the case. Evaluation is based on points and not (solely) on amount of proposal (as in QCBE). Smile
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Post by Jay De Why on Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:35 am

Sir do you have sample of an evaluation form?
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Re: WHERE IS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FALL GOODS, INFRA OR CONSULTING?

Post by ikuz23 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:22 am

j_yodics wrote:Sir do you have sample of an evaluation form?




Standard Form Number: SF-GOOD-43
Revised on: May 24, 2004


Bid Evaluation Report


1.0 PROJECT IDENTIFICATION

Narrative description of project to be bid.

Table 1. Identification


1.1 Purchaser (or Employer)
(a) Name
(b) Address
1.2 Name of the Project
1.3 Location of the Project
1.4 Approved Budget of Contract
1.5 Method of Procurement





2.0 INITIAL STEPS IN THE BIDDING PROCESS

Narrative description of bidding.

Table 2. Initial Steps in the Bidding Process


2.1 Pre-Procurement Conference
(a) Date of Conference
2.2 Invitation to Bid
(a) Date of first publication
(b) Name of newspaper
(c) Date of final publication
(d) Name of newspaper
2.3 Eligibility Check
(a) Date of eligibility check
(b) Number of eligibility envelopes received
(c) Date of Notices sent to bidders
(d) Motion for Reconsideration, if any
2.4 Issuance of Bidding Documents
(a) Period of availability of Bid Docs
(b) Number of Bid Docs issued
2.5 Amendments to Bidding docs, if any
(a) List all issue dates
2.6 Pre-bid Conference, if any
(a) Date of Conference
(b) Date of Minutes sent to bidders






3.0 SUBMISSION AND OPENING OF BIDS AND PRELIMINARY EXAMNIATION

Narrative description of bid submission and bid opening.

Table 3. Bid Submission and Opening


3.1 Bid Submission Deadline
(a) Original date, time
(b) Extensions, if any
3.2 Bid Opening date, time
3.3 Minutes of Bid Opening, date sent to bidders
3.4 Numbers of bids submitted
3.5 Bid validity period (days or weeks)
(a) Originally specified
(b) Extensions/Revisions, if any

Table 4. Bid Prices (as Read Out)


Bidder Identification/Name

Bid as Read
Amount (P)






4.0 BID EVALUATION

Narrative description of detailed examination of bids.

Table 5. Correction of Bids


Bidder Identification/Name

Bid as Calculated
Amount (P)







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Post by Jay De Why on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:03 am

Thank you but this is what i mean: The technical criteria for selecting the winner... This is like a general criteria, i think we still have do make a detail breakdown of percentage, rightt? 
Overall Design Concept: refers to the creativity of the design in meeting our requirements for a Corporate Headquarters. 40%
 Qualification of Key Personnel:
 Principal Architect
at least twelve (12) years of practising/ consistently advocating Filipino Design and Green Architecture both here and/or abroad.
Has adequate office space, equipment, and manpower to do the job.
 Principal Interior Designer ( can be another Firm)
at least twelve (12) years practising/ consistently advocating Modern Filipino Design both here and abroad. Has adequate office space, equipment, and manpower to do the job.
 Principal Landscape Architect
At least (12) years in professional practice. Has adequate office space, equipment and manpower to do the job.
 Civil/Structural Engineer, Sanitary Engineer, Mechanical Engineer, Electrical Engineer ( Can be another Firm)
All must be licensed professionals who will be evaluated on the basis of (1) Experience; (2) Education; and (3) Related-training in building designs/construction; 15%
 Experience and Capacity of the A/E-designer: refers to [1] Years of Experience in Design of similar projects; [2] Record of Previous Engagement; [3] Quality of performance with similar projects; [4] Relationship with previous clients (testimonials); 20%
 Approach and Methodology: refers to the [1] overall quality of materials used in reference to the construction budget; [2] presentation of program of works that ensures target project completion is met with due considerations to high quality of workmanship 15%
 Bid Cost: 10%
TOTAL 100%
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