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Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

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Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

Post by goldlemon789 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:32 am

I read somewhere in one of the forums that projects implemented by administration, particularly if undertaken through pakyaw contracting system, should be posted in Philgeps for purposes of transparency. I do not question that procurement processes should be posted in Philgeps for purposes of transparency and to allow an opportunity for a healthy competition and bidding among suppliers. However, in case a particular project was already approved (in the APP) to be implemented via administration, whether in-house, through job orders, or through pakyaw contracting, why is there a need to post the same in Philgeps since the pakyaw contractors must necessarily be residents of the Municipality (or barangay) where the project is. And besides, I doubt it if pakyaw contractors ever read Phlgeps posts. The provision of GPPB Resolution No. 18-2006 is silent about this.

Pakyaw groups are formed and organized in the barangays (within the vicinity of he project) through the Project facilitator, with the help of the barangay, with emphasis on giving jobs to those who are unemployed/underemployed, whether skilled, semi-skilled or under skilled. The PF informs the people in the barangay and nearby areas of the project and the formation of pakyaw groups, and this is the only way these "pakyaw" workers" learn about such project, and thereafter form "pakyaw groups. There are instances when pakyaw groups compete for certain works in order that the pakyaw contract be awarded to them. Competitive selections are based on a "per output basis" and this is where BAC comes in.

In the previous years, the BAC was in dilemma what to issue in order to invite pakyaw groups to "compete" in the selection processes. We believe it is not an invitation to bid (the GPPB resolution never mentioned the competitive selection as a bidding), neither is it a request for quotation. Thus, we simply posted a "notice" to the barangay about the project and the need for pakyaw groups to submit their quotes. Further, it is our contention that pakyaw contractors are exempted from paying anything (for the any documents) or even from posting any bond, and in fact, we are questioning the withholding of tax from the check issued to the Pakyaw leader. (I wonder where the withheld tax es go since these pakyaw workers are not registered in the BIR). Surely, inviting pakyaw groups to submit their rates and be evaluated on a "per output basis" is a different genre from the different modes of procurement. So, how do we treat the same vis-a vis procurement? We did not post the labor component of projects implemented by administration through pakyaw contracting since we believed the it does not serve the purpose for e-procurment. If at all, it is logical to post the the award to the winning Pakyaw group if we want transparency in our procurement activities.

Granting that we are mandated to post the same in Philgeps, what would be the "notice type", the "category" and the "mode of procurement" to be applied in case the labor component of a certain infra project is undertaken by administration through pakyaw contracting?

Would appreciate your comments/inputs on the same. Thanks.
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Re: Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

Post by sunriser431 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:41 pm

goldlemon789 wrote:I read somewhere in one of the forums that projects implemented by administration, particularly if undertaken through pakyaw contracting system, should be posted in Philgeps for purposes of transparency. I do not question that procurement processes should be posted in Philgeps for purposes of transparency and to allow an opportunity for a healthy competition and bidding among suppliers. However, in case a particular project was already approved (in the APP) to be implemented via administration, whether in-house, through job orders, or through pakyaw contracting, why is there a need to post the same in Philgeps since the pakyaw contractors must necessarily be residents of the Municipality (or barangay) where the project is. And besides, I doubt it if pakyaw contractors ever read Phlgeps posts. The provision of GPPB Resolution No. 18-2006 is silent about this.

Pakyaw groups are formed and organized in the barangays (within the vicinity of he project) through the Project facilitator, with the help of the barangay, with emphasis on giving jobs to those who are unemployed/underemployed, whether skilled, semi-skilled or under skilled. The PF informs the people in the barangay and nearby areas of the project and the formation of pakyaw groups, and this is the only way these "pakyaw" workers" learn about such project, and thereafter form "pakyaw groups. There are instances when pakyaw groups compete for certain works in order that the pakyaw contract be awarded to them. Competitive selections are based on a "per output basis" and this is where BAC comes in.

In the previous years, the BAC was in dilemma what to issue in order to invite pakyaw groups to "compete" in the selection processes. We believe it is not an invitation to bid (the GPPB resolution never mentioned the competitive selection as a bidding), neither is it a request for quotation. Thus, we simply posted a "notice" to the barangay about the project and the need for pakyaw groups to submit their quotes. Further, it is our contention that pakyaw contractors are exempted from paying anything (for the any documents) or even from posting any bond, and in fact, we are questioning the withholding of tax from the check issued to the Pakyaw leader. (I wonder where the withheld tax es go since these pakyaw workers are not registered in the BIR). Surely, inviting pakyaw groups to submit their rates and be evaluated on a "per output basis" is a different genre from the different modes of procurement. So, how do we treat the same vis-a vis procurement? We did not post the labor component of projects implemented by administration through pakyaw contracting since we believed the it does not serve the purpose for e-procurment. If at all, it is logical to post the the award to the winning Pakyaw group if we want transparency in our procurement activities.

Granting that we are mandated to post the same in Philgeps, what would be the "notice type", the "category" and the "mode of procurement" to be applied in case the labor component of a certain infra project is undertaken by administration through pakyaw contracting?

Would appreciate your comments/inputs on the same. Thanks.
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Re: Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

Post by Jovinal on Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:27 pm

It is not required to post pakyaw contracting system in the philgeps because they are not license contractor, the grouping is just temporary for a certain project, therefore they cannot register in the philgeps so posting the award cannot be done.
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Re: Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

Post by alvinambion on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:28 pm

Jovinal wrote:It is not required to post pakyaw contracting system in the philgeps because they are not license contractor, the grouping is just temporary for a certain project, therefore they cannot register in the philgeps so posting the award cannot be done.
same dilema here, so mam/sir if it is not required to post the pakyaw contracting in philgeps, what should we do? need some inputs. thanks in advance.

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Re: Posting in Philgeps of projects implemented through pakyaw system?

Post by regina avelino on Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:59 pm

there is no need to post to philgeps the pakyaw groups. what is required to be posted is the procurement of the materials to be used in the infrastructure projects which should be through bidding. Section 4.2 of the GUIDELINES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS BY ADMINISTRATION states that:

"The formation of Pakyaw Groups should actively involve the Barangay
leaders and the community. A Project Facilitator (PF) shall be appointed by
the implementing agency to assist in the organization of the Pakyaw Groups
and in the preparation of the Pakyaw Contracts. The PF shall, for purposes of
informing the community of the project and of organizing pakyaw groups,
shall convene community meetings, with the assistance of the Barangay
Chairperson/s. The PF shall cause the registration of all unemployed or
underemployed members of the community who are interested to join Pakyaw
groups being formed for the project."

For transparency purposes, pwede naman po i-publish ito to encourage more workers to join para may competition,.

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