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Post by regina avelino on Wed May 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Hi to all, queries below:
1. Can a BAC Member be at the same time the head of the TWG?
2. In relation to no. 1 above, can he receive two honoraria, one as BAC member and one as TWG?
3. In relation to no. 2 above, if the BAC member who is also a TWG head receiving honorarium being a BAC member and also receiving a honorarium as TWG Head, would this mean that both honoraria should not exceed 25% of his basic monthly salary. Example, basis salary is 50,000.00 and 25% is 12,500. if he is a BAC member and a TWG head, is he allowed to receive 12,500 or 25,000?

please advise po

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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by engrjhez® on Wed May 16, 2012 5:26 pm

regina avelino wrote:Hi to all, queries below:
1. Can a BAC Member be at the same time the head of the TWG?
2. In relation to no. 1 above, can he receive two honoraria, one as BAC member and one as TWG?
3. In relation to no. 2 above, if the BAC member who is also a TWG head receiving honorarium being a BAC member and also receiving a honorarium as TWG Head, would this mean that both honoraria should not exceed 25% of his basic monthly salary. Example, basis salary is 50,000.00 and 25% is 12,500. if he is a BAC member and a TWG head, is he allowed to receive 12,500 or 25,000?

please advise po

Answers are my opinion only.
1. No.
2. No.
3. Since in #1 and #2 my answers are No, no need to answer #3
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by regina avelino on Wed May 16, 2012 5:52 pm

thank you very much sir.

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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by Jovinal on Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 pm

No to all your queries.
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by engrjhez® on Thu May 17, 2012 1:24 am

One interesting duality however (for LGUs) is the GSO as a BAC member and the Head of the Secretariat at the same time, where honoraria will not be an issue.

What do you think? Smile
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by sunriser431 on Fri May 18, 2012 10:15 am

regina avelino wrote:Hi to all, queries below:
1. Can a BAC Member be at the same time the head of the TWG?
2. In relation to no. 1 above, can he receive two honoraria, one as BAC member and one as TWG?
3. In relation to no. 2 above, if the BAC member who is also a TWG head receiving honorarium being a BAC member and also receiving a honorarium as TWG Head, would this mean that both honoraria should not exceed 25% of his basic monthly salary. Example, basis salary is 50,000.00 and 25% is 12,500. if he is a BAC member and a TWG head, is he allowed to receive 12,500 or 25,000?

please advise po
opinion of the GPPB
Can a member of the BAC simultaneously be a member of the TWG
There is no express prohibition on this. Ideally, however, the BAC and TWG should have different members. If the members of the BAC are at the same time designated as members of the TWG, there will be less check and balance, as there will be conflict of interests. Moreover, the purpose for which the TWG was created will be undermined because we will have a situation where the BAC member who is at the same time a TWG member will be assisting himself.
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by isabelo c. rodriguez on Fri May 18, 2012 6:50 pm

this issue comes to a head when the BAC member is a TWG member and is the end-user all at the same time. citing ms. avelino's situation, the possibility of a 3-in-1 is always there. and to think that RA 9184 is silent about this rather unique situation.

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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by alpha1 on Mon May 21, 2012 9:36 am

A BAC member and as an end-user is always a possibility but as BAC and TWG member at the same time? I think it's irregular, this is my personal view.
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by sunriser431 on Mon May 21, 2012 1:51 pm

isabelo c. rodriguez wrote:this issue comes to a head when the BAC member is a TWG member and is the end-user all at the same time. citing ms. avelino's situation, the possibility of a 3-in-1 is always there. and to think that RA 9184 is silent about this rather unique situation.
I think the provision of the RA#9184 cannot address all the issues and concerns in every situation, the nitty-gritty in the actual implementation of the GPRA and I believe its up to the agency concern to institude control measures to avoid such situation. bounce




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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by regina avelino on Mon May 21, 2012 2:26 pm

sir sunriser, how about the NON-POLICY OPINION issued online by GPPB? Can it be a source of rules/regulation for procurement? What is basically the purpose of GPPB for issuing such NPO?

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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by jcolas on Tue May 22, 2012 11:34 am

In the issue at bar, this is where the moral fiber of the designating authority comes into play. Their are situations where a BAC member is at the same time the end-user. In that case and in that specific scenario, the BAC Chair should not aggravate the situation by designating the same person as a member of the TWG as power will now be lodged in a single person.
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by sunriser431 on Tue May 22, 2012 9:54 pm

jcolas wrote:In the issue at bar, this is where the moral fiber of the designating authority comes into play. Their are situations where a BAC member is at the same time the end-user. In that case and in that specific scenario, the BAC Chair should not aggravate the situation by designating the same person as a member of the TWG as power will now be lodged in a single person.
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Re: BAC/TWG member

Post by jcolas on Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 am

"isabelo c. rodriguez wrote"
this issue comes to a head when the BAC member is a TWG member and is the end-user all at the same time. citing ms. avelino's situation, the possibility of a 3-in-1 is always there. and to think that RA 9184 is silent about this rather unique situation.

The apointing/designating authority should remember that no one person can claim knowledge of RA 9184. Check and balance should always be insituted and in order to avert a situation such as the one cited by ms avelino, training should be given to those whpo are interested in this vocation, and thank you sir sunriser...
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