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Post by bogart on Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:17 am

Good morning guys,

Here's the scheme:

Bidder A:
Specs: Complying
Price: X + 2000 pesos
Additional: Free laptop

Bidder B:
Specs: Complying
Price: X
Additional: None

Given what is above, can bidder A's offer be more advantageous to the government since they are offering a free laptop as part of the package despite the difference in bid price of 2,000 pesos ?

Hoping for an answer today.


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Re: Freebies for the 2nd LCB

Post by elib on Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:18 pm

hi ralphmartinDOSTV,

to be more objective,try to compare it as apples to apples. in this particular instance, specs and price only as it is the only common denominator the 9184 reccommends to compare. freebies are extraneous variable which can defeat the objectiveness of the procurement process.

bidder b will be more advantageous to the pe.

just my opinion...

cheers.....
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Re: Freebies for the 2nd LCB

Post by engrjhez® on Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:06 am

ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:Good morning guys,

Here's the scheme:

Bidder A:
Specs: Complying
Price: X + 2000 pesos
Additional: Free laptop

Bidder B:
Specs: Complying
Price: X
Additional: None

Given what is above, can bidder A's offer be more advantageous to the government since they are offering a free laptop as part of the package despite the difference in bid price of 2,000 pesos ?

Hoping for an answer today.


Bidder A must be disqualified for introducing "alternative bids". ITB Clause 14 is clear:

14. Alternative Bids

Alternative Bids shall be rejected. For this purpose, alternative bid is an offer made by a Bidder in addition or as a substitute to its original bid which may be included as part of its original bid or submitted separately therewith for purposes of bidding. A bid with options is considered an alternative bid regardless of whether said bid proposal is contained in a single envelope or submitted in two (2) or more separate bid envelopes. (underscoring mine)

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Re: Freebies for the 2nd LCB

Post by bogart on Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:51 pm

engrjhez® wrote:
ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:Good morning guys,

Here's the scheme:

Bidder A:
Specs: Complying
Price: X + 2000 pesos
Additional: Free laptop

Bidder B:
Specs: Complying
Price: X
Additional: None

Given what is above, can bidder A's offer be more advantageous to the government since they are offering a free laptop as part of the package despite the difference in bid price of 2,000 pesos ?

Hoping for an answer today.


Bidder A must be disqualified for introducing "alternative bids". ITB Clause 14 is clear:

14. Alternative Bids

Alternative Bids shall be rejected. For this purpose, alternative bid is an offer made by a Bidder in addition or as a substitute to its original bid which may be included as part of its original bid or submitted separately therewith for purposes of bidding. A bid with options is considered an alternative bid regardless of whether said bid proposal is contained in a single envelope or submitted in two (2) or more separate bid envelopes. (underscoring mine)

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Sir, with due respect, can a freebie be part of an alternative offer although the supplier complied with the technical specs of the equipment?

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Re: Freebies for the 2nd LCB

Post by RDV @ GP3i on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:34 pm

ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:
engrjhez® wrote:
ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:Good morning guys,

Here's the scheme:

Bidder A:
Specs: Complying
Price: X + 2000 pesos
Additional: Free laptop

Bidder B:
Specs: Complying
Price: X
Additional: None

Given what is above, can bidder A's offer be more advantageous to the government since they are offering a free laptop as part of the package despite the difference in bid price of 2,000 pesos ?

Hoping for an answer today.


Bidder A must be disqualified for introducing "alternative bids". ITB Clause 14 is clear:

14. Alternative Bids

Alternative Bids shall be rejected. For this purpose, alternative bid is an offer made by a Bidder in addition or as a substitute to its original bid which may be included as part of its original bid or submitted separately therewith for purposes of bidding. A bid with options is considered an alternative bid regardless of whether said bid proposal is contained in a single envelope or submitted in two (2) or more separate bid envelopes. (underscoring mine)

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Sir, with due respect, can a freebie be part of an alternative offer although the supplier complied with the technical specs of the equipment?

I agree, a freebie should not be considered as an Alternative Bid. Per PBDs, an Alternative Bid is an offer made by a bidder in addition to or as a substitute to its original bid. A bid with options should also be considered an alternative bid.

If there is a freebie in the bid, it is in no way an alternative bid. The freebie could, however, be considered as a discount. Therefore, if there is a freebie, during bid evaluation the freebie, for whatever is determined as its worth, should be deducted from the bid price to get the calculated price.
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Re: Freebies for the 2nd LCB

Post by engrjhez® on Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:14 am

ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:
engrjhez® wrote:
ralphmartinDOSTV wrote:Good morning guys,

Here's the scheme:

Bidder A:
Specs: Complying
Price: X + 2000 pesos
Additional: Free laptop

Bidder B:
Specs: Complying
Price: X
Additional: None

Given what is above, can bidder A's offer be more advantageous to the government since they are offering a free laptop as part of the package despite the difference in bid price of 2,000 pesos ?

Hoping for an answer today.


Bidder A must be disqualified for introducing "alternative bids". ITB Clause 14 is clear:

14. Alternative Bids

Alternative Bids shall be rejected. For this purpose, alternative bid is an offer made by a Bidder in addition or as a substitute to its original bid which may be included as part of its original bid or submitted separately therewith for purposes of bidding. A bid with options is considered an alternative bid regardless of whether said bid proposal is contained in a single envelope or submitted in two (2) or more separate bid envelopes. (underscoring mine)

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Sir, with due respect, can a freebie be part of an alternative offer although the supplier complied with the technical specs of the equipment?

Okay, my apologies for the confusion. What appears to me is that there is the bid of x and that there is x+2000, coming from a single bidder. If the only bid present is x+2000, and it does not in any manner present x as another price as an option, then there is no alternative bid. I stand corrected.

In evaluating bids, the criteria is non-discretionary. Even if the bid will offer twice the quantities required for a little over than the lowest calculated bid, the latter must prevail. Smile
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