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Post by fe a. araya on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:50 pm

Hay naku ruel. Ako di iiyak (nag walk out lang ako in the middle of the meeting) and consistent (and persistent sometime) lang ako sa alam kong tama based on the IRR. Sabi nga nila sa akin di daw ako pahuhuli ng buhay hehehe. At least thanks naman sa BAC members namin, they also consider my opinions coz they know I have basis and they know I will not put them down and I dont want us to experience 6.1.15. Ganyan ko kamahal ang BAC. Kaya mga BAC Secretariats, know and continue learning the basic guidelines.

Wow! I really appreciate this forum
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Post by mbdr on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:57 pm

Hello and good morning guys!

Sir engrjhez tanga rin ako pag facebook ang pinag uusapan pero may facebook account na ako. Probs lang hindi ako marunong mag maintain. My son told me mama for us lang yon.... Evrytime mag open ako esp friendster..... very funny, mga classmate ko nandoon. kulit at parang maubos ang time ko chatting with them. may video viedo pa.... hehehe para ring teenager ako.ngehhhh!

Yes mam fe.... i remember may first days as BAC SEC. hindi ko rin alam yung maggawa ng minutes. Good that I have a classmate in the SP office doing also mins of the SP meeting. Pero ang resolutions ay different from the mins mam espe that we have RA9184. Before, an hour before the meeting i che check ko ang mga docs at saka yung mga request sa end-user if saang provision sa RA9184 pwedeng mangyari . kASE ANG ROLE NATING SECRETARIES ay mag mag feedback (always) sa BAC d ba?

There was one time na one of our hambugerong supplier (nakakainggit....hmmmmm!) asked me kung tapos na baw yung resolution for his claim. Imagine a day after the meeting, then mga 30-40s res an gawin for that meeting alone... I told him sir mag sign pa ang BAC then pls give us time to route the papers for the BAC signature.... I was thingking na ok na yun ang explanation ko sa kanya. I heared na strikta daw ako then nag joke pa to name my snacks! hahahaha I told him sir marami kami nya sa bahay namin. Kung gusto mo sir invite ko kayu para mag snacks, walang limit kahit meals pa!!!!! yun....natapos . At now , behave na ang gwapong yun....At pinaninindigan ko ang tawag niya sa aking strikta daw ko!

Well, its true, its not an easy job. dealing with these people, the BAC, the suppliers, the end-users esp engineers namin (parang naka superior nila kaysa ating secretariat) all the time parang boss always in a hurry para sa kanilang mga request. I always tell them pina prio ku yong pina ka importante mga sirs.... Dont worriesssss.....ill take care of your requests. It took me time to learn dealing with them.... Pero ngayun, parang ok na cila (i hope so), nakita naman nila na nag work ako at above all kung may mga probs cila, they can always get my help.

thats why , wlang empleyado sa govt na basta bastang magpa assign dito sa BAC SEC.What do you think sirs?

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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by fe a. araya on Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:33 pm

Its just a matter of diplomasya and pakikipag -usap sa kanila. Ako, I treat them as friends and show them respect so di nila kayang ibully ako. I am just consistent in my actions but meron din flexibility sometime pero sa tamang paraan lang. I even offer them coffee when they come to my office just like any other visitor. I believe that our clients are not a disturbance to our work but rather, they are the purpose of what we are doing as part of our job.

So, relax just enjoy our job, no stress, be knowledgeable para ang tingin sa atin BAC Secretariat ay not just mere clerk.

Thank you mbdr for sharing your experience. My Facebook na rin ako pero just like you di masyadong marunong.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by mbdr on Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:08 pm

Sa amin dito may mga malalaking ulo na ssuppliers noon. nakasandal daw sa..... pero sa ngayun , established na ang BAC namin dito medyu kalmado na cila. behave na cila when dealing with us although sometimes meron pang mga fresh na fresh lalo na sa medcine suppliers. Pero k lang managaeable lang.... sa ngayun hehehehe.

Realy challenging ang work natin d ba? Parang mga LLB... hahahaha. interpreting the law but for me I always do the reasearching like now.... then pag medyo malabo , I always refer things /matters to our BAC chairman or member whom I think is knowledgeable . Since I am a member only of the secretariat, i always refer such with head sec.

Anyways, good luck nating lahat esp to us Secretariat. More power at yes lets continue learning the law for the BAC hehehehehe bounce

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professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by meAnne on Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:11 pm

magandang araw po sa inyong lahat.

i accidentally clicked open this topic, and never am i so glad of coincidences. some of the veterans in this forum have already imparted their knowledge on various concerns i raised. i even sent a private message to someone with my frustrations since i felt it was out of line to post the same in this forum. <ala po kasi akong tropang involved sa BAC, kaya when it comes to this peculiar activity, ala akong makausap ng matino> but your messages somehow encouraged me to take up my BAC secretariat burden and go on. unseen by you, ms. fe, mbdr and all others, i stood up and clapped for your dedication and commitment. 2003???? that is soooooo a long time ago. anlaki na pala ng sakripisyo niyo dito, and yet you are still here, still persevering, still learning continuously. grabecious to the maximum level. saan po kayo kumukuha ng inspirasyon? ang haba po siguro ng pasensiya niyo, at ang lalaki ng mga puso....

i have been recruited into this position because of my boss' confidence. he got so dissatisfied with the performance of the previous secretariat that he asked the HOPE to reconstitute the whole BAC. sus. like you, suplada ako pagdating sa regulations, tipong "kundi mo alam, eto issuance o, pakibasa na lang". i am a stickler for compliance. and it really is so annoying when others are not. para naman sa ikakabuti ng lahat, gawin na lang sana ang tama. haaaaaaayyyyyyyy life talaga Rolling Eyes

i admire you all for putting up with your delicate positions for how many years now. this complex intricate procurement law needs people like you. sana dumami pa kayo. <at sa pagdami niyo po, paki-ambunan na lang ang manila region, kapalit ko po Laughing >

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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by fe a. araya on Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:18 pm

Nice hearing from you MeAnne. WElcome to the club. I hope we can shasre more issues in this forum.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by engrjhez® on Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:50 pm

meAnne wrote:magandang araw po sa inyong lahat.

... 2003???? that is soooooo a long time ago. anlaki na pala ng sakripisyo niyo dito, and yet you are still here, still persevering, still learning continuously. grabecious to the maximum level. saan po kayo kumukuha ng inspirasyon? ang haba po siguro ng pasensiya niyo, at ang lalaki ng mga puso....

i admire you all for putting up with your delicate positions for how many years now. this complex intricate procurement law needs people like you. sana dumami pa kayo. <at sa pagdami niyo po, paki-ambunan na lang ang manila region, kapalit ko po Laughing >

God bless everybody. Very Happy

Hehe, di naman po ganon katagal ang forum. The year 2003 was the enactment and implementation of RA.9184. But some here are even decades old with the procurement practice. RA.9184 is only a reformist act, but procurement was already existent as early as any government was concieved.

Inspiration? I think most here would agree that inspiration flows within our bloods. The same thirst for knowledge and reform has brought us in this fellowship. And again, as public servants, we live to serve and not serve to live - that distinguish us from the rest. Very Happy

This forum started last year (I think July). But the experiences we are sharing here knows no bounds (except for intimacies of course). Nevertheless, when we are so tired at the end of the day, we sometimes visit our FACEBOOK® accounts to see other members in action. BTW, everyone is invited to be part of the that Facebook® account fan.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by fe a. araya on Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:58 pm

Papanu join FACEBOOK accounts. D namin alam masyado. Taga encode lang kami ng madaming resolutions, minutes awards hehehehe Pls. guide us
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Post by engrjhez® on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:35 pm

fe a. araya wrote:Papanu join FACEBOOK accounts. D namin alam masyado. Taga encode lang kami ng madaming resolutions, minutes awards hehehehe Pls. guide us

Click nyo lang po signature ko below (engrjhez). It will link to my Facebook® account.

NOTE: Please refrain from using Facebook® while still within official working hours, hehe. Hello CSC! Very Happy
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Post by fe a. araya on Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:02 pm

Past five na kaya pwede na ang Facebook. Thanks
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Post by amang'65 on Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:09 pm

fe a. araya wrote:Past five na kaya pwede na ang Facebook. Thanks



o ayan engr jhez, dalawa na kami ni fe nagpapaturo ng facebook, CSC ka dyan kasalanan mo ito, 'kaw nagsimula, tinakbuhan mo pa ako kagabi.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by fe a. araya on Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:52 am

Na open ko na Facebook ni engrjez kaya lang na stress yata ako kahapon after that "word war" hehehe kaya di ko tinuloy. I'll try again today after ko mapirmahan mga payrollschecks and vouchers casuals contractuals baka icomplain ako sa CSC. Awardee pa naman sana ako ng CSC recently hahaha
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by sunriser431 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:23 pm

As the title of this topic which read "Professionalization of the BAC and BAC Secretariat." I have read an article way back 2008, and if my memory serves me right., the OPCCB (Organization Position Classification and Compensation Bureau) of the DBM is task to study and come up recommendation in professionalizing of the Procurement personnel in all levels of government. I dont know if there is update on this, maybe the OPCCB still on process of gathering data. Hopefully they can have it as soon as possible.
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Post by amang'65 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:40 pm

sunriser431 wrote:As the title of this topic which read "Professionalization of the BAC and BAC Secretariat." I have read an article way back 2008, and if my memory serves me right., the OPCCB (Organization Position Classification and Compensation Bureau) of the DBM is task to study and come up recommendation in professionalizing of the Procurement personnel in all levels of government. I dont know if there is update on this, maybe the OPCCB still on process of gathering data. Hopefully they can have it as soon as possible.



i think you are refering to NBC no.: 517 issued oN December, 22, 2008 Re: GUIDELINES ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PROCUREMENT UNITS.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by sunriser431 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:36 pm

amang1965 wrote:
sunriser431 wrote:As the title of this topic which read "Professionalization of the BAC and BAC Secretariat." I have read an article way back 2008, and if my memory serves me right., the OPCCB (Organization Position Classification and Compensation Bureau) of the DBM is task to study and come up recommendation in professionalizing of the Procurement personnel in all levels of government. I dont know if there is update on this, maybe the OPCCB still on process of gathering data. Hopefully they can have it as soon as possible.

i think you are refering to NBC no.: 517 issued oN December, 22, 2008 Re: GUIDELINES ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PROCUREMENT UNITS.

Thanks for info, But I'm not refering to this circular, (I have similar topic posted in this forum) it has something to do with the IOS (Index of Occupational Services) or Position classification or grouping of similar position/titles and were not as descriptive or reflective of the duties and responsibilities to the positions and the salaries were not commensurate to the work load attached to the position/Title.
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by engrjhez® on Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:59 am

sunriser431 wrote:
Thanks for info, But I'm not refering to this circular, (I have similar topic posted in this forum) it has something to do with the IOS (Index of Occupational Services) or Position classification or grouping of similar position/titles and were not as descriptive or reflective of the duties and responsibilities to the positions and the salaries were not commensurate to the work load attached to the position/Title.

sunriser,

Please refer to the RDV's reply in the discussion of BAC SECRETARIAT
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Post by sunriser431 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:52 pm

engrjhez wrote:
sunriser431 wrote:
Thanks for info, But I'm not refering to this circular, (I have similar topic posted in this forum) it has something to do with the IOS (Index of Occupational Services) or Position classification or grouping of similar position/titles and were not as descriptive or reflective of the duties and responsibilities to the positions and the salaries were not commensurate to the work load attached to the position/Title.

sunriser,

Please refer to the RDV's reply in the discussion of BAC SECRETARIAT
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I have read and participated in that topic, although we have our own IOS yet there are still issues that need to be address, for example a clerk processor assign permanently with the BAC secretariat having salary grade 6, and while personnel from the procurement unit doing the same task having a salary grade 8, a difference of 2 grades. I have been proposing it to our HOPE using the "Built" and "scrap" scheme, until now it remain to be seen. as I have said before we members of the BAC Secretariat is the least of his( our HOPE) concern, until proven otherwise. In the meantime I told my personnel (Secretariat) to keep on praying and never lost hope. bounce
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Re: Professionalization of BAC and BAC Secretariat

Post by meAnne on Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:14 pm

tanong ko lang po. is the professionalization of BAC and BAC secretariat ongoing? if it is, then that will affect members who are "out-of-line" with their current position/designation upon comparison with their under/post - graduate courses <ie pharmacy graduate in secretariat positon>. will experience be given any weight? or does subject simply means undergoing seminars/training in order to be efficient and effective at one's current position?

salamat po. God bless. Embarassed

hello po sa mga idols kong veteran ng forum which started last year only. <the 2003 period was mentioned in relation to procurement experiences and does not pertain to the beginning of this very helpful and informative forum> Smile
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