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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by sunriser431 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:02 pm

amang1965 wrote:
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fe a. araya wrote:Can the DBM also look into the possibility that the sale of bid dos, fees, etc from where the BAC honorarium is taken, can also be the source of supplies and materials for the use of the BAC secretariat?

It was actually part of the circular (DBM BC 2004-5 as amended by 2004-5a). Dati nga 50-50 (sa BC 2004-5), tapos pwede na i-100% for honoraria on BC-2004-5a. Nevertheless, all unused portion of BAC's income shall be forwarded to the treasury to become part of General Fund (in case of LGUs) for the next budget year or pwede rin sa Supplemental. Since the BAC (Sec) is not a regular office, it can only get supply allocations from another regular office (such as Mayor's Office for LGUs) unless otherwise the Annual Budget specifically identifies office supplies exclusive for the BAC (Sec) subject to approval of sanggunian ordinance.

I wonder, however, that some auditors (COA ) allows the use BAC's income to expenses other than payment of honoraria? Anyway, just asking...Very Happy


i suggest we refrain from calling sale of bid docs etc as an income, because it is suppose to merely defray government expenses. Very Happy
agree, but if this "BAC income" will be subjected to the rigid accounting, (after deducting all those expenses directly involved in the procurement likes, Direct cost, Indirect cost, miscellaneous cost, office supplies, advertisement expenses, messengerial cost etc.). In the end will there be amount P xxxx.xx balance for the BAC Honorarium? lol! Peace to all BAC.
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by fe a. araya on Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:33 am

Thanks for the opinions, guys. Anyway, as engrjhez said, the BAC (Sec) supplies can be taken from other source. Actually, what I did was to prepare PRs for BAC Supplies and charged them to funds of respective sectors/services in our office and no problem naman sa kanila. I posted the query only just in case, may magagawa and GPPB or DBM bout this.
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by sunriser431 on Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:41 pm

From our operation scheme, we seek and ask other departments to share their supplies for use of the BAC secretariat, besides, being the requisitioning unit/departments, they dont want to delay their procurement projects. bounce
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BAC Honoraria

Post by fe a. araya on Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:46 pm

I agree, sunriser. That's "strategy". I hope other BAC Secretariat with the same problem for their supplies can adopt this. Happy Holidays to all!
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by juv2 on Mon May 17, 2010 7:26 pm

DBM Circular 2004-5A
1) 5.8 "By reason of jurisprudence, a Department Undersecretary or Assistant Secretary who concurrently serves in the BAC, in whatever capacity, shall not be entitled to honoraria." - So that means, our BAC chairman, BAC vice-chairman and one member who are Assecs at the same time are not entitled to honoraria?

2) do I need to remit the collected bid docs fees to the national treasury?

3) 2004-5A 5.6 "The members of the BAC Secretariat whose positions are in the Procurement Unit of the agency shall not be entitled to honoraria." - pde po pa-elaborate? kc BAC secretariat po ako, a TWG member said that i will not be entitled to honoraria, only Overtime pay.

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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by engrjhez® on Mon May 17, 2010 8:45 pm

juv2 wrote:DBM Circular 2004-5A
1) 5.8 "By reason of jurisprudence, a Department Undersecretary or Assistant Secretary who concurrently serves in the BAC, in whatever capacity, shall not be entitled to honoraria." - So that means, our BAC chairman, BAC vice-chairman and one member who are Assecs at the same time are not entitled to honoraria?
Are you from what department? Are you sure you are talking of the Department as a Central Agency? or are you talking of a Regional Office? That is different. Smile
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2) do I need to remit the collected bid docs fees to the national treasury?
For national government offices, please refer to Section 6.2 of BC 2004-5A:
Pursuant to the DOF-DBM-COA Permanent Committee Resolution No. 2005-2 dated June 2005, all agencies are authorized to treat the collections from the sources identified in item 6.1 hereof as trust receipts to be used as exclusively for the payment of honoraria and overtime pay herein authorized. Agencies may utilize up to one hundred percent (100%) of the said collections for the payment of honoraria and overtime pay subject to the guidelines in item 5.0 of this Circular. Any excess in the amount collected shall be remitted by NGAs to the Bureau of the Treasury. In the case of GOCCs and LGUs, the same shall form part of their corporate or local government funds, respectively.
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3) 2004-5A 5.6 "The members of the BAC Secretariat whose positions are in the Procurement Unit of the agency shall not be entitled to honoraria." - pde po pa-elaborate? kc BAC secretariat po ako, a TWG member said that i will not be entitled to honoraria, only Overtime pay.
Based on your profile, you are Legal Assistant I. Are you assigned to a unit that is tasked to manage procurement, processing of procurement papers, and similar administrative/clerical functions to the BAC Secretariat? If so, you cannot be paid honoraria for the same task, job description, and duties that you perform concurrently.
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You are welcome! Smile
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by juv2 on Tue May 18, 2010 10:26 am

1) I am from a department as a central agency. So, our assistant secretary BAC member is not entitled to payment of honoraria?

2. Our normal practice in distributing honoraria (once a contract has been awarded pursuant to 5.1 of 2004-5A) is to distribute all collections to all BAC members, TWG, BAC secretariat, etc. BAC is planning to pay honoraria this month and after reading this circular including DBM C. 2007-3. BAC wants to clarify things before we give honoraria. What does this circular mean by "trust receipts"?

3. I am assigned to BAC secretariat, full-time. So I guess I am entitled?

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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by juv2 on Tue May 18, 2010 1:28 pm

correction to no.3. i am also assigned in other division of our legal department.
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by Niwram on Tue May 18, 2010 2:50 pm

http://www.gppb.gov.ph/opinions/view_opinion.asp?o_id=251
Read number 2 query of this link.. hope this will help..
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by engrjhez® on Thu May 20, 2010 2:30 pm

juv2 wrote:1) I am from a department as a central agency. So, our assistant secretary BAC member is not entitled to payment of honoraria?

2. Our normal practice in distributing honoraria (once a contract has been awarded pursuant to 5.1 of 2004-5A) is to distribute all collections to all BAC members, TWG, BAC secretariat, etc. BAC is planning to pay honoraria this month and after reading this circular including DBM C. 2007-3. BAC wants to clarify things before we give honoraria. What does this circular mean by "trust receipts"?

3. I am assigned to BAC secretariat, full-time. So I guess I am entitled?

thanks.

1. The Assistant Secretary concurrently as BAC member serving in any capacity is NOT entitled of honoraria.

2. The guidelines in payment of honoraria are already in DBM BC 2004-5a. It si "per completed procurement" basis.

3. Being assigned-full time and not an ad-hoc/attending member of BAC Secretariat, you are entitled of overtime work with pay, but NOT honoraria.

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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by msm326 on Mon May 24, 2010 2:37 pm

very well taken up by engrjhez...
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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by Incredibles209 on Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:14 am

Pwede bang gamitin ang collection ng mga projects na hindi pa na award sa honorarium ng mga na award na projects dahil short ang collection sa na award na project?

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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by kanavarro on Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:56 pm

For clarification po.

Does this also includes successful negotiated procurement under small value procurement?

Appendix 10
Guidelines on the Grant of Honoraria to Government Personnel Involved in Government Procurement

5.2 The payment of honoraria shall be limited to procurement that involves competitive bidding. Competitive bidding activities are present only in:
-Open and competitive
-Limited source bidding
-Negotiated procurement under Sec. 53 (a) of the IRR-A, where there has been failure of bidding for the second time; and
-Negotiated procurement under Sec. 53 (b) of the IRR-A following the procedures under Sec. 54.2 (b) thereof, whereby the procuring entity shall draw up a list of at least 3 supplier or contractors which will be invited to submit bids.

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Re: BAC Honoraria

Post by bunsojhmc on Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:10 pm

This only applies to completed procurement through competitive bidding, limited source and 2 failed bidding.

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