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Post by orlan747 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:11 am

May I respectfully ask if the inquiries/replies in this forum be acceptable as proof or evidence of impropriety for Ombudsman? I mean, suppose a member of the BAC has asked for some advises (for matters which we, interested bidders, could not have known as this could have transpired during their post-qua) regarding violations/non-compliance of a particular contractor but then in a long while awarded the project anyhow to that same contractor.
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by Niwram on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:21 am

The replies in this forum cannot be accepted as proof or evidence of improprietary for ombudsman.
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by Guest on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:23 am

I believe your question is a question on the Rules on Evidence.
In my opinion you cannot use the posts in this forum as your basis because of several reasons,
1. the identity of the person posting is unknown or uncertain.
2. the truthfulness of the information.
3. in short unreliable source of evidence.
4. what do you intend to prove in presenting this posts in court?
Could you accomplish it by presenting such post as evidence granting that the court will accept it as evidence?

Better consult the Rules on Evidence.

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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by orlan747 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:41 am

Thanks guys.
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by Guest on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:05 am

SECTION 1.Evidence defined. — Evidence is the means, sanctioned by these rules, of ascertaining in a judicial proceeding the truth respecting a matter of fact.

Sec. 3.Admissibility of evidence. — Evidence is admissible when it is relevant to the issue and is not excluded by the law of these rules.

Sec. 4.Relevancy; collateral matters. — Evidence must have such a relation to the fact in issue as to induce belief in its existence or non-existence. Evidence on collateral matters shall not be allowed, except when it tends in any reasonable degree to establish the probability or improbability of the fact in issue.

Posts in this forum must provide the highlighted part of the provisions of the rules in order to be an admissable evidence in court.

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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by orlan747 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:31 pm

Thanks very much, Sir PK.

That's really a very helpful reply.

I believe that the post I have seen has all the elements you have highlighted.
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by Guest on Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:51 pm

You should not only believe you should also prove it exist.

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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by engrjhez® on Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:02 pm

Pritong Kandule wrote:You should not only believe you should also prove it exist.

Agree.

Posts in this forum can be from anyone else. Ex. I could decide to present myself as the HOPE of an agency. By registering some similar details, I can make it 'as real' as if I am the person portrayed. My identity will not be checked anyway. All I need is to provide an email add. An email add is so easy to acquire---> just like CTCs (no offense intended).

Most important of all, I can erase and alter my post anytime - even the account in this forum. Evidence cleared. Mind everyone that this is not the PhilGEPS (where there is an audit trail). Very Happy
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by orlan747 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:10 pm

Gee, I think I have showed my hands early in the game. Tsk tsk, that particular post could disappear anytime now, no? There goes another evidence... Well, anyway, the Ombudsman would have enough evidence to occupy their time.. Just have to cross my fingers, the BAC I am running after would feel some little fear and may reform their ways in the future..
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by sunriser431 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:00 pm

engrjhez wrote:
Pritong Kandule wrote:You should not only believe you should also prove it exist.

Agree.

Posts in this forum can be from anyone else. Ex. I could decide to present myself as the HOPE of an agency. By registering some similar details, I can make it 'as real' as if I am the person portrayed. My identity will not be checked anyway. All I need is to provide an email add. An email add is so easy to acquire---> just like CTCs (no offense intended).

Most important of all, I can erase and alter my post anytime - even the account in this forum. Evidence cleared. Mind everyone that this is not the PhilGEPS (where there is an audit trail). Very Happy
agree, with footnote clause at the bottom part of the ITB which reads.

"The PhilGEPS team is not responsible for any typographical errors or misinformation presented in the system. PhilGEPS only displays information provided for by its clients, and any queries regarding the postings should be directed to the contact person/s of the concerned party." bounce
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by sunriser431 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:05 pm

orlan747 wrote:Gee, I think I have showed my hands early in the game. Tsk tsk, that particular post could disappear anytime now, no? There goes another evidence... Well, anyway, the Ombudsman would have enough evidence to occupy their time.. Just have to cross my fingers, the BAC I am running after would feel some little fear and may reform their ways in the future..
hi orlan747 you could also use the COA portal in reporting fraud alert. click this link http://www.coa.gov.ph/Fraud.htm bounce
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by orlan747 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:46 pm

Thank you Sir Sunriser. Hmmm, that is really helpful..

Salamat po.. Smile
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Re: Evidence for Ombudsman

Post by sunriser431 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:47 am

orlan747 wrote:Thank you Sir Sunriser. Hmmm, that is really helpful..

Salamat po.. Smile
You are welcome orlan747 Smile
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