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On the creation of an IAS

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On the creation of an IAS

Post by amang'65 on Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:00 pm

this may not be the right forum to ask this question but since most posters are government employees then i might as well maximize this forum by asking:

is it mandatory for a government agency to create an IAS? because in our agency, instead for our IAS helping the management sila pa yung nang gugulo. o game na!
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by Guest on Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:32 am

Check mo ung organizational structure nyo kasi d naman pareparehas ung structure ng bawat government entities eh.

Internal and unique yan sa bawat office.

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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by amang'65 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:10 am

Ligaw na Binatog wrote:Check mo ung organizational structure nyo kasi d naman pareparehas ung structure ng bawat government entities eh.

Internal and unique yan sa bawat office.


tama ka organizational structures are unique for every government entity, ang question ko lang, is it mandatory for a government agency to create an IAS, because i do not remember if it is an AO or EO or RA that "requires" government agency to create an IAS, otherwise kung hindi sya mandatory then we might as well dissolve our IAS kasi pangpagulo lang sila lalo na kung in place naman ang operational systems namin sa office.
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by sunriser431 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:25 am

amang'65 wrote:
Ligaw na Binatog wrote:Check mo ung organizational structure nyo kasi d naman pareparehas ung structure ng bawat government entities eh.

Internal and unique yan sa bawat office.


tama ka organizational structures are unique for every government entity, ang question ko lang, is it mandatory for a government agency to create an IAS, because i do not remember if it is an AO or EO or RA that "requires" government agency to create an IAS, otherwise kung hindi sya mandatory then we might as well dissolve our IAS kasi pangpagulo lang sila lalo na kung in place naman ang operational systems namin sa office.
Hopefully this would be of help. Try this link http://www.ops.gov.ph/records/mc_no89.htm bounce
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by sunriser431 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:18 pm

You can visit the DBM website for details. Here additional info.
Circular Letter 2008-5 dated April 14, 2008 concern
Guidelines In The Organization and Staffing Of An Internal Audit service/Unit and Management Division/Unit In departments/Agencies/GOCCs/GFIs Concerned.

Circular Letter 2008-8 dated October 23, 2008 concern
National Guidelines on Internal Control Systems (NGICS)
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by amang'65 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:32 pm

galing mo talaga sunriser, thanks a lot ill review this circulars.

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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by sunriser431 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:06 pm

amang'65 wrote:galing mo talaga sunriser, thanks a lot ill review this circulars.

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On the creation of an IAS

Post by fe a. araya on Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:57 pm

In compliance with the Malaca˝ang directive, an IAS was created both in our Central Office and our Regional Offices. Actually the DBM granted our office, particularly the central office the authority to fill up positions created for the IAS. Although in the field offices, the personnel assigned to Regional Office IAS were taken from the existing manpower.

The functions of the IAS are all defined in a Department Order issued by our Department Secretary hence its authority and specific responsibilities are clear. Kaya siguro nagkakaproblema ung agency becoz kasi nga siguro di klaro ang functions and authority ng IAS sa kanila.
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by amang'65 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:54 pm

youre right ms.fe definitely magkakagulo kng hindi claro ang mga functions, but i do not see any problems with the functions stipulated in the special orders creating an ias, besides meron namang national guidelines as far as ias functions are concerned but the problem is when people assigned go beyond their stipulated functions. very basic as objectives ng ias, if only the several units do their jobs properly, correctly there is no need for an ias.
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by fe a. araya on Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:20 pm

Korek, amang. By the way, am supposed to be in Baguio this week for the Seminar Workshop on REcords Mgt and Disposition. Nagmeet sana tau. Kaya lang di ko alam sino hahanapin ko. Wala naman name.
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Re: On the creation of an IAS

Post by amang'65 on Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:09 pm

really!!! wow sayang ms.fe chance to meet you sana pero i will be at pagudpud, ilocos norte, for a dispedida party of a friend, kailan yung seminar nyo at anong venue ng seminar?
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Post by fe a. araya on Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:14 am

The venue is at Hotel Supreme Convention Plaza. April 27-29 ang seminar. Actually, may T.O. na ako but last minute I was not permitted to go because we will be hosting the meeting of all Regional Executive Directors of DENR. And dami ko rin pala BAC Resolutions, and other BAC documents to finalize for signature of our RED who will be out of the country starting May 3. Sayang nga.
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